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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.10.13 06:26:00 -
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How about a combat simulator instead. You put your ISK on the table (cost of the virtual ship) and winner takes all less 10% to the house. The combat takes place in a simulator, just like a sealed system as used in the tournaments.
Add a spectators interface so people can watch and a bookmaker then go for it.
Even solves the crew RP issue as it is all simulated.
Maybe allow players to run such establishments once ambulation comes out.
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.10.13 10:29:00 -
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Edited by: Telemicus Thrace on 13/10/2007 10:34:09
Lots of knee-jerk reactions in this thread. Nobody is against the alliance tournaments but heaven forbid we discuss the possibility of having the same thing in game, watchable through the game engine.
I personally like the idea of betting on these matches more than taking part.
Would people feel differently if we were talking about Mindclash games in stations once ambulation came out? There are so many types of PvP in Eve, I really think there is room for more flavours. A whole new career, I can just see the back of the box now. Freeform career paths, be a Miner, Pirate, Industrialist, Trader, Freedom Fighter, Duelist, Pro-Sports Mindclash star, Lab rat, Bounty Hunter...
PvP in Eve is all well and good as it is but for those times you can only jump on for 15 minutes this could be a good laugh.
Bottom line, if nobody wanted or enjoyed Arena style sports PvP we would not have had so many alliance tournaments, there wouldn't be so many player organised bouts and there wouldn't be a match down every fan fest. The engine is in place, add a few intefaces and a whole new part of Eve opens up.
"Sorry Karn, I can't make it to the raid tonight. I have 50 million ISK riding on Badboris in a 2 v 1 Cruiser / Frigate bout and front row seats in the Galleria."
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You make some good points Amarria.
 Originally by: Amarria Black
"Ruins 0.0 / lowsec" argument: If something so minor as an arena ruins 0.0 or lowsec, then it obviously wasn't very fun in the first place, was it?
Fun aside you don't gain territory or defeat an enemy in an arena. 0.0 will always be there as a war zone. The only way you can lose a region in the arena is if you place it as a bet. 
In our alliance like many others we often have tounaments with prizes. It's good fun. Doesn't stop us doing all the other types of PvP. More options, more fun. I like the idea of getting more fun out of this game.
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.10.14 09:20:00 -
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Why can't you do this now with the current game mechanics?
You can, and people do. Quite a bit.
Eve doesn't need arenas! nobody wants them!!1! gb2wow!11
Need? no. Nor does it need missions. Players want them though. They are popular. If combat sports broke Eve would CCP put so much effort into the Alliance Tournament? if it was so ****e would thousands watch it? If simulated combat in a controlled environment for entertainment and gambling is so unrealistic explain to me boxing or wrestling.
Why do Devs have to build stufs?
Well, they don't. But it will add to the game. It will give players broader scope for arena style prize fighting greater than what they have now. Add the functionality for spectators to watch bouts from stations via camera drones and throw in some gambling and fun times for all (and profit for some). The subject keeps coming up and is actively fuelled by CCP arranging tournaments themsleves.
But it will break Eve!?!?!!1!11!
Rubbish, total rubbish. Nothing will be taken away from Eve or degraded in any way. We will just have more options for entertainment, more options for stuff to watch, more things to do in the 30mins before DT. More fun.
Now the detractors of this idea keep saying "go back to WoW" or "you people don't understand Eve". Really, that is nothing but the whining of children who fear something new. If you don't like arena combat don't take part, it's a policy I find has worked well for me and mining for a very long time.
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.10.14 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
If you don't like arena combat don't take part
As said before, I have no problem with arena's. But, if you and a friend go for a fight in the Arena, then I should be allowed to suicide gank you both, if I can before concord burns my ship to pieces.
That is the part that dissapears with hard-coded closed arena's.
Why should you be able to? You can't do that at the alliance tounament? When ambulation comes out and we are sitting playing cards or Mindclash you can't do it?
You could suicide gank them on the way to or from the station if you really want, no change there.
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.10.14 10:26:00 -
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Edited by: Telemicus Thrace on 14/10/2007 10:31:31
Well if thats the way you really feel I expect you all to boycott Eve the next time CCP hold an alliance tounament. Take it as far as your convictions are able to carry you.
Edit:
If I am completely honest I don't enjoy watching other people fight in Eve, not as it stands. With a spectator interface where I could watch the fight from both PoV and see what mods they were using and when it might be more interesting.
I would really like to see some form of PvP spectator sport in Eve that was fun to watch and play. With gambling. With the scope for racketeering. I think Mindclash is the perfect candidate for this once Ambulation comes out. Now, anybody got a problem with that?
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.10.14 13:18:00 -
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Edited by: Telemicus Thrace on 14/10/2007 13:19:03
Khes, the alliance tounament was held in game. The players are in the game, the ships they used were built in the game. It is no different than what I and a few others are suggesting. Now to compare arena combat as a spectator sport to mining? that's just stupid. In the current parlance, you fail.
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